Investments Should Be Boring | Series 1.6 - Enjoy More 30s: Family Finance

Episode 6

Investments Should Be Boring | Series 1.6

Published on: 22nd February, 2021

Think you need a fancy investment strategy? You may be surprised at the answer.

  • Evaluate your investment mindset (01:30)
  • Diversification (02:51)
  • Not touching it (05:55)

Quote for the episode: "Long term, if we have a little bit in different pieces, it should take us in the correct upward direction."

Securities offered through TFS Securities, Inc., Advisory Services through TFS Advisory Services, a SEC Registered Investment Advisor Member FINRA / SIPC.  TFS Securities, Inc. located at 437 Newman Springs Road, Lincroft, NJ 07738 (732) 758-9300.

Transcript
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Welcome to the Enjoy More 30s: Family Finance

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podcast, the only podcast dedicated to making life more

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enjoyable for young families by hitting on the financial topics

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that tend to weigh on us, stress us out and distract our focus

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from simply enjoying life.

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Hello, and welcome to the Enjoy More 30s: Family

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Finance podcast. This is episode number six in the initial

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series, "Your Money Mindset", and it's titled "Investments

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Should Be Boring". So we're going to cover what you need to

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know about why your investment approach should be boring, and

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what you can do to make sure that it stays that way. Now,

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when I was a kid, like many boys, I wanted a really cool

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fast car. I'd watch movies with these fast cars and all sorts of

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things, and I obviously wanted to do that too. I probably

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watched "Gone in 60 Seconds" a million times and said you know,

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"I want one of these old fast cars that I could do tricks in

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and, you know, be generally very unsafe in." I kept the Motor

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Trend magazine's, I looked at all the new models and

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everything else. And then you fast forward to me today, and

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well, I drive a Subaru. It's not particularly fast. I bought it

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because it's known for being safe, and it has a good

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reputation for being reliable. And essentially, I feel like I

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can put my family into the car, and we can go to, you know,

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wherever we're wanting to go to safely. And that's what turned

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out to be the most important to me when it comes to my car for

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where I am today.

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So what you need to know is people can kind of be the same

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with investments. We watch movies of people trying to time

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the stock market and hit it big- and we may think of the stock

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market then as a fancy shiny car. And because everybody kind

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of has investments, it can sometimes make it feel not quite

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so reckless to take this approach. We're just kind of

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emulating what we may see on TV with buy low, and sell high and,

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you know, all this kind of stuff. And it's, in my opinion,

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a reckless approach to be taking when it's the most important

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tool you probably have when you're trying to determine what

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your future is going to turn into.

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So when you hear me say boring, 'what does that mean exactly?'

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is probably the question that you're asking. So I'll first

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start off by saying what it doesn't mean. It does not mean

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leaving all your money in the bank, with no real upward

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potential long term. If you leave all your money and save in

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the bank, you're probably not going to reach the goals that

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you're setting out for yourself. If you do, it's certainly going

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to take you much, much longer than it necessarily has to by

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trying to do it that way. What it really comes down to is two

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main points. The first is staying diversified, and two is

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not touching it.

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staying diversified. My industry likes

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using a lot of jargon terms that confuse people, but diversified

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is really just a fancy way of saying 'don't have all your eggs

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in one basket'. If you think about your 401(k) statement,

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that's probably the easiest place to relate to, and you look

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at all the investment options- what you probably see are 20 to

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30 different individual options. In those titles, you'll see

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words such as large cap growth this, or small cap value that,

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or foreign this, or emerging markets that. These are all

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different areas of the market, the global market. And some of

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these are stock funds, where you're buying equity or

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ownership in companies. Others can be bond funds, and that

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would be kind of like if you- the easiest way, again, is whe

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you received government sav ngs bonds from the U.S. gov

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rnment when your gra dparents probably gave those to

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ou. That's basically the gov rnment having money loaned to

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hem, you're loaning them you money, and they're paying you

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an interest rate off of tha . That's how a CD works. Tha

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's how any bond debt kind of ins rument works. Corporations lik

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Apple, Coca Cola, etc. they do hat too to raise money for th

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mselves.

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So there's all these different areas that you can invest in.

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The thing about it is despite what you may see on TV or what

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anybody proclaims, nobody has a crystal ball to know which areas

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are going to do really, really well in any one year, and a

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crystal ball to know which areas are going to do really, really

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poorly in any one year. And so we don't want to really be

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trying to time, or guess, what areas are really fantastic and

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are really going to do well, and what areas aren't. Because

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that's when people tend to get into trouble. If you think about

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all these finance experts, or self proclaimed experts out

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there, if any of them was really able to do that, everybody's

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money would probably be with them by now, right? If they

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could consistently say which area is always going to do the

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best, they probably would draw a lot of attention. They certainly

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would be drawing attention from people in the industry like me.

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When we're staying diversified, that means that we're keeping

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pieces in all of these different areas. We're kind of, you know,

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we're acknowledging the fact that we don't know which area is

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going to do really well, or really poorly in any one year,

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but long term, all of these different areas should go up in

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value. Long term, if we have a little bit in different pieces,

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it should take us in the correct upward direction- again, long

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term. Any one year things can go down, they can go up. But long

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term, if we spread out everything all the time, we're

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giving ourselves a much better chance of going in the right

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upward direction as time goes on.

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For number two, not touching it, this is much more

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straightforward. Unfortunately, 2020 is probably a really good

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example. If you're watching the news, or maybe even watching

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your accounts, in March or so most things went down 20-30%.

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And then they proceeded to rebound in the next few months,

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and we ended 2020 with most categories, or most areas of the

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market that we just kind of touched on briefly, positive.

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Some were very positive, double digit positive. Now the people

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that panicked, and moved their money out when it was low, were

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the ones that completely now lost their ability to recover-

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that recovery already happened. So they can invest now, but

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they're investing after everything has already gone up.

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And that's the thing that most people run into, and it's not

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something that I can blame them for at all. Emotionally, when

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you see those numbers decreasing, it fills you with

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fear, it fills you with anxiety- that's perfectly natural, you're

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watching something go down. However, if you're reacting on

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those emotions, that's where you can get yourself in some

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trouble. When they do studies on how much value an advisor

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actually adds for the people that they work with, the biggest

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contributing factor to that, oftentimes, is helping people

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with the behavioral element. Avoiding rash, emotional

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decisions when it comes to investments is generally a sound

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approach to be taken.

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So what can you do? The first is to kind of treat your

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investments more like a Subaru. We're trying to use them to get

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your family to its destination- that's our mindset. We're not

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trying to jump in a sports car and get them to their goals, you

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know, potentially at 200 miles per hour, but also with a very

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high likelihood of crashing. We're trying to go in the right

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direction and get there safely. If you're a do-it-yourselfer, we

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never recommend creating your own allocations. So for your

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401(k), again, if you look, "oh, they have all these different

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funds, I could pick some of this, I can pick some of that."

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If you're not a professional that's trained and can do this

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on a regular basis and has knowledge and experience, then

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we do not at all recommend doing that. Most 401(k) plans offer

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you what they call target date funds. So if you're looking at

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your list of investment options, you may see a phone that says

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the Retired 2045 Fund or the Retired 2050 Fund. What these

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funds are, are an easy way to get broader diversification, a

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broader spreading your money out, all in one fund. So what

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the fund does, is it says 'this person says they're going to

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retire in 2045'. That means I can be more aggressive today,

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because we're still 20 plus years away, and when we get

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closer to 2045, we're going to make it naturally more

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conservative because they're getting closer to the

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retirement. So this is a very basic way to get a larger level

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of diversification without having to make those decisions

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on your own, when if this is not your profession, you're probably

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not qualified to be doing that. Outside of a 401(k), they have

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something called allocation funds. So it may be the Vanguard

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Moderate Growth Allocation Fund, or the Franklin Templeton

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Conservative Allocation Fund, or whatever it might be. And you

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can match the level of risk that you're wanting to take, or

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that's appropriate to be taking, for each of your individual

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accounts. If you are using an advisor, they, in my opinion,

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should be giving you very similar advice to this. While

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they may have an expertise in designing their own allocations,

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in my opinion, it should be very much an invested everywhere all

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the time kind of a mindset. If your advisor speaks about

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tactical, or moving to cash, or forward looking projections, or

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anything like that, that's generally code for trying to

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guess what's going to do well, which I definitely am not a

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proponent of.

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In closing let's take a quick look at some of these main

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points that we covered today. The first is take a step back

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and look at how your mindset currently is when it comes to

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dealing with your investments. Are you looking at them as a

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tool? Are you looking at them as kind of the Subaru- I want this

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tool to be able to take me and my family to reach my goals. Or

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are you looking at it as more of a Hollywood fast car, and maybe

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that's not the approach that you really want to be taking. The

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second point is being diversified is a way to spread

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your money out everywhere all the time, because we aren't ever

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sure which area is going to do really well or really poorly,

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but long term, they should be taking us in the right, general

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upward direction. The last is when it comes to the emotional

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part of it and not touching it. 2020 may seem unique, 2008

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seemed unique. There is going to almost certainly be multiple

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more stressful situations, emotional situations where

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you're going to see your account go down in value. Lastly,

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remember there are tools such as target date funds, and

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allocation funds, that can help if you're not using an advisor

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who can assist with these allocations, that can give you a

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level of diversification that most likely is better than you

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trying to do something like this on your own.

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As always, thanks for tuning in. If you enjoyed this episode,

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please make sure to review us on Apple podcast or wherever you

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listen. There are literally millions of young American

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families out there that I'm trying to reach and help just

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like you. The final episode in this initial series is going to

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be coming up shortly, and its title is "Aren't Advisors for

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Old People?" So there are some things that we may be taught

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subconsciously through what we see on TV, and what we think of

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when it comes to an advisor, that may not necessarily be

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true. It's been great talking with you today and I look

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forward to connecting with you again soon.

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About the Podcast

Enjoy More 30s: Family Finance
Family Finance for Young Professionals.
Young families receive little to no personal finance help. We all grow up to have jobs and money, yet our education system focuses on Shakespeare and Algebra. Even professional advice can be hard to come by, with the majority of the industry chasing retirees and existing wealth.

Joe Okaly's podcast is aiming to change this, providing personal financial advice geared specifically to professionals with young families. This podcast is dedicated to making life more enjoyable for young families, by hitting on the financial topics that tend to weigh on us, stress us out, and distract our focus from simply enjoying life.

Joseph P Okaly is a CFP Certified Financial Advisor who fits directly in with who this podcast is focused on - a young professional with a family. With over a decade of experience as an advisor, there is passion and knowledge to make a difference.

Securities offered through TFS Securities, Inc., Advisory Services through TFS Advisory Services, a SEC Registered Investment Advisor Member FINRA / SIPC. TFS Securities, Inc. located at 437 Newman Springs Road, Lincroft, NJ 07738 (732) 758-9300.