36%: The Golden Cash Flow Ratio | Series 2.4 - Enjoy More 30s: Family Finance

Episode 4

36%: The Golden Cash Flow Ratio | Series 2.4

Published on: 5th April, 2021

Stop wasting countless hours budgeting - find out how much additional you may be able to save in 15 minutes or less.

  • The goal of a budgeting exercise (01:23)
  • 36% ratio: see where you stand (02:08)
  • Do something with your extra savings (06:43)

Quote for the episode: "The goal is not to account for every penny. It is to make sure you're saving a good amount towards yourself and keeping within your means."

Securities offered through TFS Securities, Inc., Advisory Services through TFS Advisory Services, a SEC Registered Investment Advisor Member FINRA / SIPC.  TFS Securities, Inc. located at 437 Newman Springs Road, Lincroft, NJ 07738 (732) 758-9300.

Transcript
Voiceover Audio:

Welcome to the Enjoy More 30s: Family Finance

Voiceover Audio:

podcast, the only podcast dedicated to making life more

Voiceover Audio:

enjoyable for young families by hitting on the financial topics

Voiceover Audio:

that tend to weigh on us, stress us out and distract our focus

Voiceover Audio:

from simply enjoying life.

Joseph Okaly:

Welcome to the fourth episode in this "Your

Joseph Okaly:

Money Multiplier" series, which is entitled "36%: The Golden

Joseph Okaly:

Cash Flow Ratio". Today we're going to cover what you need to

Joseph Okaly:

know when it comes to what a budgeting exercise should

Joseph Okaly:

actually accomplish. And what you can do to perform your own

Joseph Okaly:

in 15 minutes or less. Growing up, I was always a bit of a slim

Joseph Okaly:

kid. And so when I got into high school with sports, and you

Joseph Okaly:

know, just being honest, girls and everything else, I wanted to

Joseph Okaly:

be bigger, more muscular like a lot of boys do. You would hear

Joseph Okaly:

talk of eating this special diet or taking the supplement or

Joseph Okaly:

whatever else. It was always a lot of work, took a lot of time,

Joseph Okaly:

and at the end of the day was not sustainable long term. This

Joseph Okaly:

is kind of how it is for anyone that has ever tried, you know, a

Joseph Okaly:

diet or anything kind of in this realm. Most are too time

Joseph Okaly:

consuming and complicated to maintain long term. At the end

Joseph Okaly:

of the day, pretty much everyone can agree on a quick, simple,

Joseph Okaly:

universal version. If you put lots of good stuff into your

Joseph Okaly:

body, put as little bad stuff into your body as possible, and

Joseph Okaly:

work out to some degree, you'll probably be in pretty good

Joseph Okaly:

shape.

Joseph Okaly:

What you need to know is that scary words like budgeting and

Joseph Okaly:

cash flow work much the same way. The most logical way to

Joseph Okaly:

approach it is to break down everything you have coming in,

Joseph Okaly:

what you have going out, being meticulous down to the very

Joseph Okaly:

penny. And the end result is that there's way too much work

Joseph Okaly:

to maintain- every month is different. And then Christmas

Joseph Okaly:

and a sick dog bill just kind of blow the whole thing up anyway.

Joseph Okaly:

I'm here to tell you, though, that you don't need to do it

Joseph Okaly:

this way. And maybe surprising to hear, but the goal is to not

Joseph Okaly:

actually account for every penny when it comes to a budgeting

Joseph Okaly:

exercise. It's to make sure you're living within your means

Joseph Okaly:

and saving at least something towards yourself every month.

Joseph Okaly:

What you can do to accomplish this is to utilize a 36% ratio.

Joseph Okaly:

This is the same ratio that is incorporated into how a bank

Joseph Okaly:

evaluates you for a mortgage. Our trademark tool, that we call

Joseph Okaly:

Backdoor Budgeting, uses this same approach that we use in

Joseph Okaly:

meetings with clients. So how it works is kind of like this. If

Joseph Okaly:

you were to apply for a loan at a bank, they would focus on just

Joseph Okaly:

36% of your gross, so pre tax, monthly income. The other 64%

Joseph Okaly:

they would pretty much just ignore. They say that this is

Joseph Okaly:

the portion of your income that goes to expenses everyone has.

Joseph Okaly:

So think groceries, gas, cell phone, TV, stuff like that. For

Joseph Okaly:

the 36%, they would focus on just the items that are specific

Joseph Okaly:

to you- meaning some people have them and some people don't. Some

Joseph Okaly:

people have a car loan, some people don't. Some people have a

Joseph Okaly:

mortgage, some people rent, some people save into a work plan and

Joseph Okaly:

some people don't. So basically, it includes your housing

Joseph Okaly:

payment, mortgage with taxes and insurance or rent, loans and

Joseph Okaly:

debts, think auto, student, or any credit cards that you carry

Joseph Okaly:

forward month to month with partial payments, so if you

Joseph Okaly:

don't pay your credit cards off every month, and then what you

Joseph Okaly:

already save every month.

Joseph Okaly:

So let me give you kind of a simplified example. If I make

Joseph Okaly:

say $10,000 a month gross, so again, before taxes. Then 36%

Joseph Okaly:

comes out to 3,600- 36% of 10,000 is 3,600. Pretty easy so

Joseph Okaly:

far. This is the amount we're focusing on for 'specific to me'

Joseph Okaly:

expenses. If I have a mortgage of $1,600 a month, and a car

Joseph Okaly:

loan of $500 a month, I subtract those and now I'm down to $1,500

Joseph Okaly:

a month- $3,600 minus $1,600 for the mortgage is $2,000. $2,000

Joseph Okaly:

minus the $500 for the car loan is $1,500. Not too bad still

Joseph Okaly:

right? If I save around $1,000 a month into my 401(k) already at

Joseph Okaly:

work, now I take that $1,500, subtract that another $1,000 and

Joseph Okaly:

I'm down to $500. So with no other loans, or unpaid credit

Joseph Okaly:

cards that carry month to month, this is what I should have as a

Joseph Okaly:

surplus. There it is. Done. You have a starting point. That took

Joseph Okaly:

way less than 15 minutes actually.

Joseph Okaly:

This can be used for a flexible investment account as described

Joseph Okaly:

in the earlier "Like Super Gymnast Flexible" episode. It

Joseph Okaly:

can be used for college savings, for a home improvement, or

Joseph Okaly:

another home purchase account, for more retirement savings-

Joseph Okaly:

anything. You now have a starting point. If you find this

Joseph Okaly:

is too high or too low, you can just change it the next month,

Joseph Okaly:

no problem. The hardest part, though, is now done for you. You

Joseph Okaly:

have a starting point of what most people, most families in

Joseph Okaly:

your situation, using that standard ratio, should be able

Joseph Okaly:

to save additional. If the number comes out negative when

Joseph Okaly:

you do this exercise, then I would not be surprised to hear

Joseph Okaly:

that you have growing credit card balances and trouble paying

Joseph Okaly:

everything month to month. This is your likely deficit that

Joseph Okaly:

probably needs attention in that case. Now, you know, on this

Joseph Okaly:

other hand, roughly how much you need to free up by lowering your

Joseph Okaly:

savings, maybe refinancing. These parts may need an advisor

Joseph Okaly:

to maybe give you the best course of approach for, but

Joseph Okaly:

either way in way less than 15 minutes, you have a great idea

Joseph Okaly:

of where you stand. It was quick, painless, and puts you in

Joseph Okaly:

a position that you can take positive action. That's the most

Joseph Okaly:

important part of all of this.

Joseph Okaly:

So when we're talking about budgeting, you know, as kind of

Joseph Okaly:

a recap for today, the first thing is to rethink the goal of

Joseph Okaly:

scary words like budgeting. The goal is not to account for every

Joseph Okaly:

penny, it is to make sure you're saving a good amount towards

Joseph Okaly:

yourself and keeping within your means. That's it. Second, use

Joseph Okaly:

this 36% ratio to quickly get an idea of where you stand. Gross,

Joseph Okaly:

so pre tax income, minus those expenses that are specific to

Joseph Okaly:

you, and any savings currently being done, and you're done with

Joseph Okaly:

calculating a starting point. Third, take action. Make a

Joseph Okaly:

conscious choice to now do something with that extra

Joseph Okaly:

savings. Even if it's just, "I'm going to move it into this

Joseph Okaly:

separate bank account every month to see if I can actually

Joseph Okaly:

do this", even that is fine. Make some positive step forward

Joseph Okaly:

as a first step. And if you're on the negative side, make sure

Joseph Okaly:

to look at taking action to balance out your cash flow. If

Joseph Okaly:

you have rising credit cards every month, decreasing bank

Joseph Okaly:

account every month, that needs attention now. It is not going

Joseph Okaly:

to fix itself, it will only get worse. It's never smart to save

Joseph Okaly:

at the expense of mounting credit card debt. It's kind of

Joseph Okaly:

like you know swimming backwards, so to speak. Put

Joseph Okaly:

money into my 401(k) but I'm putting an equal amount onto my

Joseph Okaly:

credit card because I can't live, that equation isn't going

Joseph Okaly:

to balance out for you long term.

Joseph Okaly:

So as always, if you are wanting help, please remember to check

Joseph Okaly:

out the 'Ask Joe' section on the show's website- enjoy more 30s

Joseph Okaly:

.com, that's enjoy more three zero s .com and thanks very much

Joseph Okaly:

for tuning in today. Please remember if you enjoyed this

Joseph Okaly:

episode, please make sure to subscribe and review us on Apple

Joseph Okaly:

podcasts or wherever you listen. There are literally millions of

Joseph Okaly:

young American families out there I'm trying to reach and

Joseph Okaly:

help just like you. Clicking on a star, leaving a review,

Joseph Okaly:

clicking subscribe- all of these things help us show up higher in

Joseph Okaly:

the rankings and give more people like you an opportunity

Joseph Okaly:

to find it, and hopefully help them in the ways that it's

Joseph Okaly:

helping you. The next episode is titled "Stocks Lead, Don't

Joseph Okaly:

Follow" where we will cover what typically makes the stock market

Joseph Okaly:

react and the mistakes most investors make after the fact by

Joseph Okaly:

trying to follow along. Thanks very much as always for

Joseph Okaly:

connecting today and looking forward to doing so again soon.

Voiceover Audio:

The conversations on this show are

Voiceover Audio:

Joe's opinions and provided for general information purposes

Voiceover Audio:

only. They do not constitute accounting, legal tax or other

Voiceover Audio:

professional advice for your specific situation. You should

Voiceover Audio:

always seek appropriate advice from a financial advisor,

Voiceover Audio:

accountant, lawyer or other professional before acting upon

Voiceover Audio:

any content or information found here first. Joe is affiliated

Voiceover Audio:

with New Horizons Wealth Management LLC, a branch office

Voiceover Audio:

of TFS securities Inc and TFS advisory services and sec

Voiceover Audio:

registered investment advisor member FINRA/SIPC.

Next Episode All Episodes Previous Episode
Never Miss an Episode!

Never Miss an Episode!

Sign up for our free newsletter, so you get each new show as soon as it's live! Plus, get exclusive content and updates just for subscribers - sign up below!
Show artwork for Enjoy More 30s: Family Finance

About the Podcast

Enjoy More 30s: Family Finance
Family Finance for Young Professionals.
Young families receive little to no personal finance help. We all grow up to have jobs and money, yet our education system focuses on Shakespeare and Algebra. Even professional advice can be hard to come by, with the majority of the industry chasing retirees and existing wealth.

Joe Okaly's podcast is aiming to change this, providing personal financial advice geared specifically to professionals with young families. This podcast is dedicated to making life more enjoyable for young families, by hitting on the financial topics that tend to weigh on us, stress us out, and distract our focus from simply enjoying life.

Joseph P Okaly is a CFP Certified Financial Advisor who fits directly in with who this podcast is focused on - a young professional with a family. With over a decade of experience as an advisor, there is passion and knowledge to make a difference.

Securities offered through TFS Securities, Inc., Advisory Services through TFS Advisory Services, a SEC Registered Investment Advisor Member FINRA / SIPC. TFS Securities, Inc. located at 437 Newman Springs Road, Lincroft, NJ 07738 (732) 758-9300.