Episode 5
Stocks Lead, Don't Follow | Series 2.5
Learn what tends to actually drive volatility in the market, and why many investors miss out because of it.
Quote for the episode: "So what you can do is really the hardest thing- it's very easy to say, but it's really hard to implement. And that is not touch it."
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Transcript
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Joseph Okaly:Welcome to the Enjoy More 30s: Family Finance
Joseph Okaly:podcast. Today we have the fifth episode in our "Your Money
Joseph Okaly:Multiplier" series, which is entitled "Stocks Lead, Don't
Joseph Okaly:Follow". And this is one that is definitely keen to anxiety that
Joseph Okaly:may come out from when you see the stock market, you know, go
Joseph Okaly:down, you see your accounts go down and that natural fear that
Joseph Okaly:kind of comes out of that. So today, we're going to cover what
Joseph Okaly:you need to know when it comes to what typically makes the
Joseph Okaly:stock market react. And then more importantly, the mistakes
Joseph Okaly:that most investors make off of that. And so where that will
Joseph Okaly:lead you to then is what you can do, so don't do those things, so
Joseph Okaly:what you can do to avoid being one of those investors.
Joseph Okaly:When I was a kid, I remember looking up a lot to my older
Joseph Okaly:cousins. My mom's side of the family was very large, and they
Joseph Okaly:would teach us a lot of you know, interesting things let's
Joseph Okaly:say. Some of these were really great, and others maybe not so
Joseph Okaly:much. So for example, if you break the glass in your mom's
Joseph Okaly:fancy shelf clock, just take the glass out and throw it away. Now
Joseph Okaly:it just looks like the glass is really, really clean. And you
Joseph Okaly:don't get in trouble. I think it took my mom 10 or 15 years to
Joseph Okaly:figure out that that glass had been broken. So that was, you
Joseph Okaly:know, excellent advice. Saran wrap on the toilet as a prank,
Joseph Okaly:that was a horrible mistake. So well, well deserved punishment
Joseph Okaly:off of that one following my cousin's advice. So thank you
Joseph Okaly:very much for that.
Joseph Okaly:What you need to know when it comes to stocks is that they can
Joseph Okaly:kind of be much the same way, especially during emotional
Joseph Okaly:times. There are a lot of saran wrap ideas out there, that can
Joseph Okaly:get you into a lot of trouble. The stock market is what they
Joseph Okaly:call a leading indicator. Basically, what that means is
Joseph Okaly:that it acts in advance of what people think is going to happen.
Joseph Okaly:So if Apple earned say $100 billion in revenue, instead of
Joseph Okaly:the expected $110 billion, the stock price subsequently goes
Joseph Okaly:down. The company still made money, but the stock price was
Joseph Okaly:already higher, as it was predicting or expecting that
Joseph Okaly:$110 billion number, not the $100 billion number. As you
Joseph Okaly:could probably guess then, when they feel like they had no idea
Joseph Okaly:of what's going to happen next, extreme uncertainty, the market
Joseph Okaly:tends to drop dramatically.
Joseph Okaly:The most recent two events that we have that you might remember,
Joseph Okaly:one is the 2008 mortgage crisis, and in 2020 here, we had COVID.
Joseph Okaly:There was very little clarity at the time when these things were
Joseph Okaly:going on of what was going to happen next. And that
Joseph Okaly:uncertainty is what drove all that volatility. Once more
Joseph Okaly:clarity returned, who was getting bailed out, vaccine
Joseph Okaly:timelines, what you have, you know, for each situation, what
Joseph Okaly:the clarifying item is, that's when it started to reverse
Joseph Okaly:course.
Joseph Okaly:So what you can do is really the hardest thing, it's very easy to
Joseph Okaly:say, but it's really hard to implement. And that is not touch
Joseph Okaly:it. You are reacting off of past information. "Hey, everything
Joseph Okaly:just went down", or, "Hey, it all just went up." If you react
Joseph Okaly:after hearing this, then you most times are trying to catch
Joseph Okaly:the wave that's already past you on the way towards the shore. If
Joseph Okaly:you're maintaining a well diversified account, and you can
Joseph Okaly:listen to episode six from the first season, "Investment Should
Joseph Okaly:Be Boring", if you need that refresher, then you are
Joseph Okaly:positioned where you should be long term. If you have an
Joseph Okaly:advisor using a diversified managed account model like we do
Joseph Okaly:for our clients, they're likely rebalancing as well through
Joseph Okaly:these times to potentially take advantage of the ups and downs
Joseph Okaly:along the way. What's rebalancing? Rebalancing is
Joseph Okaly:basically taking a little bit out of the pieces that have done
Joseph Okaly:really well and putting them into the things that are a
Joseph Okaly:little bit below where they're supposed to be. So again, it's
Joseph Okaly:kind of a, you know, take some from the high or, you know,
Joseph Okaly:selling something that's high and buying into something that
Joseph Okaly:might be a little bit low right now. So if we accept that things
Joseph Okaly:are going to move ahead of time, that leading indicator, before
Joseph Okaly:we'll have a chance to generally react, then we can potentially
Joseph Okaly:avoid some of these big mistakes that most investors make by
Joseph Okaly:pulling out when things are already low, and generally not
Joseph Okaly:adding money back in until things have significantly
Joseph Okaly:rebounded. If you're waiting for, "Oh, I'll put my money back
Joseph Okaly:in after I already see it going up", you're already missing the
Joseph Okaly:up. So leaving them alone is usually the best advice that you
Joseph Okaly:can give somebody in these situations, and too many people
Joseph Okaly:end up with much less than they ought to have, if they had just
Joseph Okaly:not touched it throughout the ride.
Joseph Okaly:So a recap for today. First, understand that the stock market
Joseph Okaly:is a leading indicator. And that uncertainty is what often drives
Joseph Okaly:the vast majority of the volatile times. Less uncertainty
Joseph Okaly:usually means less volatility. Secondly, once you see the
Joseph Okaly:market went down, or you see it already went up, you are
Joseph Okaly:generally already too late to act. When there are a lot of
Joseph Okaly:waves, don't try jumping on a different boat basically. If you
Joseph Okaly:touch your investments and miss time when you take money out or
Joseph Okaly:go back in, you could very well wind up with significantly less
Joseph Okaly:than if you were just patient and did not touch it at all. If
Joseph Okaly:you never pull your money, you know, out during these volatile
Joseph Okaly:times, then you can't miss the up, you know, whenever it may
Joseph Okaly:come back. So this is one of the things that seems very basic,
Joseph Okaly:seems very easy, but it's in the moment, again, you're going to
Joseph Okaly:be very emotional- expect that to happen. COVID won't be the
Joseph Okaly:last one, the mortgage crisis wasn't the last one, there will
Joseph Okaly:be more emotional times that you're going to have to deal
Joseph Okaly:with this ride. And the worst thing that can happen is if you
Joseph Okaly:get, you know, really emotionally damaged, so to
Joseph Okaly:speak, you know, people that lose a lot in these times, they
Joseph Okaly:may be afraid to ever do, you know, invest again. And now
Joseph Okaly:we're not going to be able to reach all those goals that we
Joseph Okaly:want to set almost certainly long term.
Joseph Okaly:As always, thanks for tuning in today. I hope that you can take
Joseph Okaly:some of this information that we're providing and be able to
Joseph Okaly:use this and implement it on your own. If you're not wanting
Joseph Okaly:to implement these things on your own, please please please
Joseph Okaly:reach out to somebody that can help. Check out our website at
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Joseph Okaly:that we can. If you enjoyed this episode, as we always say,
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Joseph Okaly:like you. The next episode is titled, "The 7 Year Task: Legal
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Joseph Okaly:can possibly do for your family's protection. And yet, it
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Joseph Okaly:always, and I look forward to connecting with you again soon.
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