Stocks Lead, Don't Follow | Series 2.5 - Enjoy More 30s: Family Finance

Episode 5

Stocks Lead, Don't Follow | Series 2.5

Published on: 12th April, 2021

Learn what tends to actually drive volatility in the market, and why many investors miss out because of it.

  • The stock market is a leading indicator (02:03)
  • Don't react off of past information (03:19)

Quote for the episode: "So what you can do is really the hardest thing- it's very easy to say, but it's really hard to implement. And that is not touch it."

Securities offered through TFS Securities, Inc., Advisory Services through TFS Advisory Services, a SEC Registered Investment Advisor Member FINRA / SIPC.  TFS Securities, Inc. located at 437 Newman Springs Road, Lincroft, NJ 07738 (732) 758-9300.

Transcript
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Welcome to the Enjoy More 30s: Family Finance

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podcast, the only podcast dedicated to making life more

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enjoyable for young families by hitting on the financial topics

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that tend to weigh on us, stress us out and distract our focus

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from simply enjoying life.

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Welcome to the Enjoy More 30s: Family Finance

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podcast. Today we have the fifth episode in our "Your Money

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Multiplier" series, which is entitled "Stocks Lead, Don't

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Follow". And this is one that is definitely keen to anxiety that

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may come out from when you see the stock market, you know, go

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down, you see your accounts go down and that natural fear that

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kind of comes out of that. So today, we're going to cover what

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you need to know when it comes to what typically makes the

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stock market react. And then more importantly, the mistakes

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that most investors make off of that. And so where that will

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lead you to then is what you can do, so don't do those things, so

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what you can do to avoid being one of those investors.

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When I was a kid, I remember looking up a lot to my older

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cousins. My mom's side of the family was very large, and they

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would teach us a lot of you know, interesting things let's

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say. Some of these were really great, and others maybe not so

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much. So for example, if you break the glass in your mom's

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fancy shelf clock, just take the glass out and throw it away. Now

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it just looks like the glass is really, really clean. And you

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don't get in trouble. I think it took my mom 10 or 15 years to

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figure out that that glass had been broken. So that was, you

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know, excellent advice. Saran wrap on the toilet as a prank,

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that was a horrible mistake. So well, well deserved punishment

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off of that one following my cousin's advice. So thank you

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very much for that.

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What you need to know when it comes to stocks is that they can

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kind of be much the same way, especially during emotional

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times. There are a lot of saran wrap ideas out there, that can

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get you into a lot of trouble. The stock market is what they

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call a leading indicator. Basically, what that means is

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that it acts in advance of what people think is going to happen.

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So if Apple earned say $100 billion in revenue, instead of

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the expected $110 billion, the stock price subsequently goes

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down. The company still made money, but the stock price was

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already higher, as it was predicting or expecting that

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$110 billion number, not the $100 billion number. As you

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could probably guess then, when they feel like they had no idea

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of what's going to happen next, extreme uncertainty, the market

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tends to drop dramatically.

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The most recent two events that we have that you might remember,

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one is the 2008 mortgage crisis, and in 2020 here, we had COVID.

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There was very little clarity at the time when these things were

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going on of what was going to happen next. And that

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uncertainty is what drove all that volatility. Once more

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clarity returned, who was getting bailed out, vaccine

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timelines, what you have, you know, for each situation, what

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the clarifying item is, that's when it started to reverse

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course.

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So what you can do is really the hardest thing, it's very easy to

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say, but it's really hard to implement. And that is not touch

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it. You are reacting off of past information. "Hey, everything

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just went down", or, "Hey, it all just went up." If you react

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after hearing this, then you most times are trying to catch

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the wave that's already past you on the way towards the shore. If

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you're maintaining a well diversified account, and you can

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listen to episode six from the first season, "Investment Should

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Be Boring", if you need that refresher, then you are

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positioned where you should be long term. If you have an

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advisor using a diversified managed account model like we do

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for our clients, they're likely rebalancing as well through

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these times to potentially take advantage of the ups and downs

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along the way. What's rebalancing? Rebalancing is

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basically taking a little bit out of the pieces that have done

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really well and putting them into the things that are a

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little bit below where they're supposed to be. So again, it's

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kind of a, you know, take some from the high or, you know,

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selling something that's high and buying into something that

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might be a little bit low right now. So if we accept that things

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are going to move ahead of time, that leading indicator, before

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we'll have a chance to generally react, then we can potentially

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avoid some of these big mistakes that most investors make by

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pulling out when things are already low, and generally not

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adding money back in until things have significantly

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rebounded. If you're waiting for, "Oh, I'll put my money back

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in after I already see it going up", you're already missing the

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up. So leaving them alone is usually the best advice that you

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can give somebody in these situations, and too many people

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end up with much less than they ought to have, if they had just

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not touched it throughout the ride.

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So a recap for today. First, understand that the stock market

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is a leading indicator. And that uncertainty is what often drives

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the vast majority of the volatile times. Less uncertainty

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usually means less volatility. Secondly, once you see the

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market went down, or you see it already went up, you are

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generally already too late to act. When there are a lot of

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waves, don't try jumping on a different boat basically. If you

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touch your investments and miss time when you take money out or

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go back in, you could very well wind up with significantly less

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than if you were just patient and did not touch it at all. If

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you never pull your money, you know, out during these volatile

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times, then you can't miss the up, you know, whenever it may

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come back. So this is one of the things that seems very basic,

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seems very easy, but it's in the moment, again, you're going to

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be very emotional- expect that to happen. COVID won't be the

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last one, the mortgage crisis wasn't the last one, there will

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be more emotional times that you're going to have to deal

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with this ride. And the worst thing that can happen is if you

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get, you know, really emotionally damaged, so to

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speak, you know, people that lose a lot in these times, they

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may be afraid to ever do, you know, invest again. And now

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we're not going to be able to reach all those goals that we

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want to set almost certainly long term.

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As always, thanks for tuning in today. I hope that you can take

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some of this information that we're providing and be able to

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use this and implement it on your own. If you're not wanting

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to implement these things on your own, please please please

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reach out to somebody that can help. Check out our website at

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enjoy more 30s .com, that's enjoy more three zero s .com. We

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have an 'ask Joe' section and we'll have more resources to

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come as well. So reach out and we'd be happy to help any way

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that we can. If you enjoyed this episode, as we always say,

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or wherever you listen. There are literally millions of young

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American families out there I'm trying to reach and help just

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like you. The next episode is titled, "The 7 Year Task: Legal

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Docs" where we will cover one of the most important things you

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can possibly do for your family's protection. And yet, it

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is often one of the things that we see most young families

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ignore for the longest period of time. Thanks very much as

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always, and I look forward to connecting with you again soon.

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The conversations on this show are

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Joe's opinions and provided for general information purposes

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only. They do not constitute accounting, legal tax or other

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professional advice for your specific situation. You should

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always seek appropriate advice from a financial advisor,

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accountant, lawyer or other professional before acting upon

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with New Horizons Wealth Management LLC, a branch office

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About the Podcast

Enjoy More 30s: Family Finance
Family Finance for Young Professionals.
Young families receive little to no personal finance help. We all grow up to have jobs and money, yet our education system focuses on Shakespeare and Algebra. Even professional advice can be hard to come by, with the majority of the industry chasing retirees and existing wealth.

Joe Okaly's podcast is aiming to change this, providing personal financial advice geared specifically to professionals with young families. This podcast is dedicated to making life more enjoyable for young families, by hitting on the financial topics that tend to weigh on us, stress us out, and distract our focus from simply enjoying life.

Joseph P Okaly is a CFP Certified Financial Advisor who fits directly in with who this podcast is focused on - a young professional with a family. With over a decade of experience as an advisor, there is passion and knowledge to make a difference.

Securities offered through TFS Securities, Inc., Advisory Services through TFS Advisory Services, a SEC Registered Investment Advisor Member FINRA / SIPC. TFS Securities, Inc. located at 437 Newman Springs Road, Lincroft, NJ 07738 (732) 758-9300.