Episode 1
Unknowns Are Scary - REMIX | Series 10.1
With more education, there's less fear.
- A lot of times when it comes to finances is we don't even know what we don't know. (03:19)
- When stocks sell down, though you have that other area of your portfolio, right? Bonds, fixed income, they are more conservative, they will help us balance out those losses. (05:28)
- In the 2008 financial crisis and the 2020 pandemic, bonds did hold up considerably better than stocks. However, this time around, the reason for the losses were rising interest rates. (05:49)
Quote for the episode: Maybe now instead of saying "why is this happening to my portfolio", you can say, "I kind of get why this is now happening to my portfolio. (07:21)
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Transcript
Welcome to the Enjoy More 30s Family Finance
Voiceover Audio:podcast. The only podcast dedicated to making life more
Voiceover Audio:enjoyable for young families by hitting on the financial topics
Voiceover Audio:that tend to weigh on us, stress us out, and distract our focus
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Joseph Okaly:Hello and welcome to the next series here on the
Joseph Okaly:Enjoy More 30s Family Finance podcast, REMIX for Rising Rates.
Joseph Okaly:In 2022, there have been really significant declines across
Joseph Okaly:pretty much every major asset class through the end of
Joseph Okaly:October. With rates rising, interest rates rising
Joseph Okaly:significantly for the first time in really a long time, it can be
Joseph Okaly:a very unnerving experience for people that are dealing with it,
Joseph Okaly:which is pretty much everyone out there. This series is going
Joseph Okaly:to attempt though to help you with that. Going back and
Joseph Okaly:re-mixing a number of past episodes that I've presented to
Joseph Okaly:help you emotionally navigate these more turbulent times. Each
Joseph Okaly:week, I'll be re-mixing a different episode, bringing what
Joseph Okaly:I would say is probably a timeless concept into the focus
Joseph Okaly:of the present day situation. So as always, before I begin,
Joseph Okaly:please share and like, please leave reviews. I'd love to reach
Joseph Okaly:and help as many young families out there just like you.
Joseph Okaly:Today's first episode is re-mixing all the way back to
Joseph Okaly:the very beginning. Season one, episode one, Unknowns are Scary.
Joseph Okaly:When my son Noah, if you remember was just a couple of
Joseph Okaly:days old, we brought him home from the hospital. And we
Joseph Okaly:started to notice these little blistery bump type things around
Joseph Okaly:his diaper line. And you know, at first we just thought it was
Joseph Okaly:an irritation from the diaper. Babies have super, super
Joseph Okaly:sensitive skin. They're red and blotchy all of her when they're
Joseph Okaly:born. But after 2, 3, 4 started to pop up, we kind of started to
Joseph Okaly:realize that this is maybe something more than just diaper
Joseph Okaly:rash. We came to this realization during the night so
Joseph Okaly:we left a message for the pediatrician, because we wanted
Joseph Okaly:to go in and see them the next day. That night, though I could
Joseph Okaly:not sleep at all. I was tossing and turning, my mind just
Joseph Okaly:wouldn't shut off. It was wondering just what was wrong
Joseph Okaly:with him. You know, you go on the phone, you start looking up
Joseph Okaly:everything on the internet, and there's just a whole box of
Joseph Okaly:scary that pours out at you. And so it was a very, very difficult
Joseph Okaly:night. Now the next day, we get the appointment with the
Joseph Okaly:pediatrician. They have us come in and they diagnosed it as
Joseph Okaly:something called impetigo, which is a bacterial infection. And
Joseph Okaly:it's not a good infection to have by any means. But if you
Joseph Okaly:know you catch it early, you get a prescription Neosporin kind of
Joseph Okaly:a thing. And now you handle it. And this poor little boy who's
Joseph Okaly:just been born is great throughout the whole process, we
Joseph Okaly:have him laying on our laps, no shirt on, rubbing the ointment
Joseph Okaly:on him holding up his hand, so he can't touch it. And he's just
Joseph Okaly:sleeping there with his arms straight up in the air. So he
Joseph Okaly:was fantastic. But you know, once that night happened, I
Joseph Okaly:wasn't scared anymore. Not because the difficulty was over.
Joseph Okaly:It was it was still difficult, we still had to go through and
Joseph Okaly:get him back to better. However, I knew what I was dealing with,
Joseph Okaly:right? I knew the name of it and I knew the treatment that was
Joseph Okaly:required to have him be better. The same thing is true when it
Joseph Okaly:comes to personal finance.
Joseph Okaly:What you need to know is that the unknowns from a finance
Joseph Okaly:standpoint or a personal finance standpoint, they work in a lot
Joseph Okaly:of the same ways. So if you don't know where you are, and
Joseph Okaly:you don't know what you need to do to fix it, that's pretty
Joseph Okaly:scary, right? And that's true for anything across the board.
Joseph Okaly:And what makes it even worse. A lot of times when it comes to
Joseph Okaly:finances is we don't even know what we don't know. So Noah had
Joseph Okaly:a rash. It was a visual element. I could see that there was a
Joseph Okaly:problem. Finances don't always work that way. And if they do
Joseph Okaly:work that way, it's sometimes because it's got so late in
Joseph Okaly:dealing with the issue that now we're trying to play catch up.
Joseph Okaly:So when we see our accounts in the context of this year, you
Joseph Okaly:might have your accounts dropping 20, 25% or more,
Joseph Okaly:perhaps, depending on how you're allocated. It can be really
Joseph Okaly:scary. Like, why is this happening? I've heard words
Joseph Okaly:thrown around, like interest rates and inflation but that
Joseph Okaly:doesn't all of a sudden magically tells me what's going
Joseph Okaly:on and makes sense. Like, oh, okay, interest rates right now I
Joseph Okaly:get it now. I'm fine with my account dropping so
Joseph Okaly:significantly. So why don't we start off today with an
Joseph Okaly:explanation on how interest rates and inflation could
Joseph Okaly:possibly tie to what you may have seen in your investments?
Joseph Okaly:When inflation is too high, the government starts to get worried
Joseph Okaly:about that, you know, the economy could get a little out
Joseph Okaly:of control. They want it to grow, for sure but they want it
Joseph Okaly:to grow it more of a controled, let's say steady rate. They
Joseph Okaly:don't want the train, so to speak, to speed up too much and
Joseph Okaly:get going off the tracks. So what do they do when they say
Joseph Okaly:hey, inflation is too high, the economy's running too fast. What
Joseph Okaly:do we do? They raise interest rates. Why? Because it makes it
Joseph Okaly:more expensive for companies and individuals to borrow money. If
Joseph Okaly:it's more expensive to borrow money, they won't have as much
Joseph Okaly:money to spend. Think like if you go to the store and they
Joseph Okaly:offer you a credit card. If they give you 0% financing versus 10%
Joseph Okaly:financing, you're probably going to spend more if they offer you
Joseph Okaly:the 0% right? So less spending overall slows down the economy.
Joseph Okaly:So when interest rates go up, it's generally viewed as bad for
Joseph Okaly:the economy. I mean, they are doing it to slow down the
Joseph Okaly:economy, right? So that would make sense. The stock market
Joseph Okaly:then sees this information and says, hey, it's probably going
Joseph Okaly:to be harder for companies to borrow money to grow their
Joseph Okaly:businesses with these higher rates. That probably means
Joseph Okaly:profits won't be as high as we expected. And stocks may sell
Joseph Okaly:down like they have this year. When stocks sell down, though
Joseph Okaly:you have that other area of your portfolio, right? Bonds, fixed
Joseph Okaly:income, they are more conservative, they will help us
Joseph Okaly:balance out those losses. And that usually tends to be true;
Joseph Okaly:the bond part of your portfolio if you have one is not there to
Joseph Okaly:increase your returns. It's there to provide stability in
Joseph Okaly:the years where the stock market decreases.
Joseph Okaly:In the 2008 financial crisis and the 2020 pandemic, bonds did
Joseph Okaly:hold up considerably better than stocks. However, this time
Joseph Okaly:around, the reason for the losses were rising interest
Joseph Okaly:rates. They weren't a global pandemic, they weren't a
Joseph Okaly:financial crisis. This year, it was inflation and those rising
Joseph Okaly:interest rates. When rates go up, bonds go down. So if you
Joseph Okaly:think about it, they have this reverse relationship. If you
Joseph Okaly:personally owned a bond that had a 4% interest rate, and now
Joseph Okaly:interest rates go up and new bonds are offering 5%, Which one
Joseph Okaly:would you prefer; your 4% bond or the higher 5% bond? The 5%
Joseph Okaly:one, right? So when the rates go up, the 4% bond is now worth
Joseph Okaly:less. In 2022, then thus far, both the stock and the bond
Joseph Okaly:portions of most portfolios have been in decline, as there has
Joseph Okaly:been that lack of balance.
Joseph Okaly:So hopefully, you know, that helps a little bit in connecting
Joseph Okaly:the dots together for you, at least at a starting point in the
Joseph Okaly:series. Maybe at least makes you know a little bit more sense why
Joseph Okaly:when you hear inflation and interest rates, how those
Joseph Okaly:connect together, and how that may be connected to your
Joseph Okaly:portfolio, depending on how you have it put together. Does that
Joseph Okaly:make you feel better about seeing your accounts go down
Joseph Okaly:now? Nope, you know probably not. Just like me finding out
Joseph Okaly:that the name of Noah's infection was impetigo didn't
Joseph Okaly:instantly make me feel better. But at the same time, it was a
Joseph Okaly:little less scary for me now than when it was completely
Joseph Okaly:unknown to me. Maybe now instead of saying "why is this happening
Joseph Okaly:to my portfolio", you can say, "I kind of get why this is now
Joseph Okaly:happening to my portfolio."
Joseph Okaly:And next week's remix, Stocks Lead, Don't Follow, we are going
Joseph Okaly:to dive a little bit deeper into our perspective now and how to
Joseph Okaly:deal with it. While I can really only give specific advice for
Joseph Okaly:people to take with clients that I know as you know, I can't give
Joseph Okaly:advice to somebody's situation I don't specifically know any more
Joseph Okaly:than a doctor can prescribe a drug to a patient they've never
Joseph Okaly:met. What I can try to help with is the perspective element in
Joseph Okaly:the way that you're looking at this, across the broad spectrum
Joseph Okaly:of achieving your goals, right? Investments are there to help us
Joseph Okaly:achieve our goals, not just to have a big number on a piece of
Joseph Okaly:paper. So we want to remember that money is just that tool,
Joseph Okaly:these coins, these papers, these numbers that we see on our
Joseph Okaly:screen. Feeling that security, feeling that we're on the way to
Joseph Okaly:achieving our goals and happy experiences we want to have with
Joseph Okaly:our families. That is the real end game in all this and so
Joseph Okaly:that's where I'm going to try to help you.
Joseph Okaly:As always, please remember to review and share for others and
Joseph Okaly:if you need any help, don't hesitate in reaching out. I
Joseph Okaly:probably have helped someone just like you. Until next week.
Joseph Okaly:Thanks for joining me today and I look forward to connecting
Joseph Okaly:with you again soon.
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